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Re: Suicide
Of course there are many factors that decide about it. Circumstances sometimes can force even strongest of people to such actions. Even scorpion when hurt and corrnered by stronger opponent sometimes decides to sting himself than to be eaten. People start considering suicide when they come to point of breaking, not beeing able to whistand the (mental / physical) pain inflicted on them. Stronger your mind and body is - the more you can bare, more punishement you can take before breking. So the possibility of considering suicide under any grimm circumstances is lower. And so the possibility of change for better is higher, no one is unbreakable, it's just about how strong hits and for how long you can take without breaking.
Place that you live in is of course one of the major factors, more or stronger the factors - the bigger probability of more people driven to suicide.
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Re: Suicide
Define what it is to be mentally strong. Since you can be smart as hell, but have no emotional stability. And often a measure of ones mental strength is considered to be how intelligent they are. But the way you word it, it's not quite willpower either.
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Re: Suicide
Hmm that's very difficult thing to define. Guts meaby? Something that prevents you from giving up. It's very indyvidual thing really. I don't like to impy my point of view on everyone. To me it's plain stubborness driven by my anger and strong sense of purpose. Also flexibility a little, you can adapt or get used to hardships in time.
Meaby a little of ignorance or selfishness, no, more like pride, like "fuck, I'm too good to end it like this". I would call it something like an urge to rebell against what's probably inevitable or what seems to be the easiest choice. There may be many reasons for that depending on the person.
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Re: Suicide
I wouldn't call it guts either. Napoleon Bonaparte had plenty of guts and still tried to kill himself. He also regonised himself as pretty damn good.
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Re: Suicide
I've thought about it myself, can't say it's an easy subject. Came close to doing it, thought about different ways to do it, but I just can't seem to actually commit it. Sometimes it's just stupid, sometimes it's the toughest decision you ever have to make, sometimes it's because you can't go on anymore...
There's many reason why one would do it, but when they do it, they dont think about the good others have brought them, or at least I think they don't. I think they just think about all the wrong done to them, but it's just sad someone would actually commit suicide, because some thoughts just pop in my head when I get close to that deepest part of darkness. Those thoughts are what's keeping me alive, the future I can have, what I haven't accomplished yet, but mostly it's my friend, which help me keep my deepest darkness at bay.
Perhaps those that commit suicide are so surrounded by their darkness that they just can't see the positive things in life that they have or will have. It's just sad to commit to it and I hope that those that did, have a nice place to stay in the afterlife.
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Re: Suicide
If I were to force myself to commit suicide, I wouldn't be thinking of anything at all. I would get drunk, and just do it. Thought is not what you want when trying to escape your hell. However, I don't really want to commit suicide, so maybe it's different with other people.
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Re: Suicide
Suicide... hm... I like myself too much to do that. Though I'd probably hire a hitman to kill me.
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Re: Suicide
This is a quite interesting topic. The main thing that stopped me from doing that was a good family. Around 2006/2007 there was a time where my life was pretty shit, but I always thought that the pain my family would suffer from my suicide was bigger than what I was withstanding. That gave me strength to go on. And, when my kid was born (I have one, yes!) I was unemployed, depressed and all, but my family helped me bear with it, and I promised myself I would never let my avatar of cuteness without his father!
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Re: Suicide
I had a horrible mother who tried to kill me multiple times, drugged me up for a problem I didn't have, and I never really went three days without a fight with her(physical)at any time that she was drunk, and she was drunk 100% of the time (she started in the morning, oh, and she would be adamnant about saying she wasn't drunk)
But I never even thought of suicide, why? well, It was a will to see my potential come to full fruitation, I knew I was going to go on to do amazing things (my early rebellion against my mother made my self confidence shoot up instead of down) and I sure as hell wasn't going to rob the world of the gift that is me.
My predictions have already turned out very true, as I am currently my loved ones primary(often only) source of happiness, going off to a college with a 97% employment rate, and I've made a few amazing freinds.. and realized some incredible things about myself.
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Re: Suicide
I present to you, the ballad of the marvelous Irish bastard Andy mcgee eight fucking beers. Related to the suicide subject and I think it's worth the read. http://i.imgur.com/JYP9dqU.png
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Re: Suicide
I've attempted to off myself before, multiple times.. succeeded 3 times and then.. well here I am, it was despair and the weight of an evil, wicked and vicious society that I couldn't deal with any more. I mean people are practically raised to have no self control or ethics these days.
Anyways, I stopped trying to off myself when I realized it was impossible. Eternal life, it burns lol. but learning to cope with it opens a whole new world of possibilities.
Honestly no offense to anyone here, but attempting to kill yourself in my opinion is a sign of insanity, stopping yourself from doing it is a sign of sanity.
people who succeed lead their lives to a point where they were stark raving mad. I know I've been that way 3 times lol. also, it's not always other peoples faults. The more detailed a butt-hurt report filed by the suicidal person that succeeded, the more at fault they actually were for their own bad choices that made them hate life. that's how I read it.
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Re: Suicide
(Heads up, I try to simplify these sort of things as best possible. I probably left some factor out.)
My view on suicide is that it's a means of giving up. Why people do it is their own reasons. I don't claim to understand the absolute limit or "switch" that causes it (I don't understand it at all), but I think it is caused by some degree of will to take that action (the action of committing suicide) which is influenced by the person's surroundings/environment, health (of all varieties such as mental/physical), circumstances/situation (eg. recent break up), and living situation (including religious/spiritual views, relationships or lack thereof, etc.)
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I don't know why I discussed this beforehand and I'm not sure what I was trying to get at. Anyway, I do not believe that suicide is a rational response. I think it's a mark of insanity, subtle or otherwise. That is, unless you're the Dalai Lama or similar.
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Rem wrote: I don't know why I discussed this beforehand and I'm not sure what I was trying to get at. Anyway, I do not believe that suicide is a rational response. I think it's a mark of insanity, subtle or otherwise. That is, unless you're the Dalai Lama or similar. I don't know if I agree that suicide is a rational response to any situation.
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Re: Suicide
suicide is a rational response if you are in a situation where the choice is someone elses life(or multiple peoples lives) or yours
In that case it is brave
suicide is also a rational response if you are born in such a way that you experience constant, nonstop pain.
suicide is also a rational response if you come under the realization that you have out of control murderous thoughts and wish to keep yourself from hurting anyone else. and dont want to live in a mental institution
suicide is a rational response if your dick gets cut off
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who149 wrote: I'm trying i'm trying~ i'm making I'll try too slowly up my posting. At least once a day for a bit. Then I'll up that too twice, then four, then 8 and so on. Until eventually I wake up one morning and find out that I am actually an Idiot hero. On some quest too cheat on his gf or raise affection of 5 women who conveniently live in my the same dorm as me. In which I only have 100 days to seduce them all.
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