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Not that long ago Nazi Germany was prancing all over the European continent spreading tranny faggotry like Herman Garring everywhere and destroying any town or country that dared resist and pretty much trashing the place.

But they were defeated by the allied efforts of the USA, UK, France and several others. but germany itally spain and japan were in a league. their league had struck out at the batting plate in the final inning. the third riech was over.

Europe lay in ruins, well all except Britain because of it's location and sea border and advanced and plentiful army and navy. Iceland was not as blessed.

During the war the UK had worked closely with France and other resisting countries in Europe including greece, poland and multiple others. Spain on the other hand had a king who had bowed to hitler to save his own skin and had allowed a militant totalitarian to rule his country while he slept peacefully.

So the Uk feeling for it's allies wanted to help rebuild them, but it didn't have the money to rebuild them on it's own. So the UK proposed a trade and border partnership to help rebuild Europe. France and greece and multiple others were overjoyed to accept the partnership. and Europe began to rebuild, slowly but surely more countries were allowed to join. and rules were made for countries who had previously been part of the axis of power led by hitler:

1 they could no longer have an army, 2 if they wanted to join they had to clean house of any supporters for nazism, 3; they had to become politically stable, peaceful and friendly.

Eventually spain and italy met these rules, but germany was forbidden from joining until much later because they had been the aggressor in the war that destroyed Europe and there were many hard feeligns among the members towards germany.

much of the EU we know today had formed except for eastern europe and germany.

It was shortly after Europe had largely been rebuilt that countries began to get too comfortable with the UK as their nanny, if you need anything just ask Nanna became the mentality of the politicians of the next generation. But trouble and evil was brewing in paradise, as nations began to flex their international trade arms competition ensued and some of this led to unfair practices where countries required products going through their country to pay tariffs and customs fees or not be allowed to pass to their destination country, and regulations of each country the product passed through needing to be met for the product to pass through and price gouging and product counterfeiting, and buyouts and local market monopolization and limited venues to sell your products. Not to mention that some countries were illegally smuggling forbidden products into certain countries hidden among allowed items (this is how Weed entered from mexico to spain to amsterdam.)

This resulted in trade disputes. countries argued and each country remained pigheaded in protection of their practices (a state of mind that has continued to this day in the EU).

So, rather than solve the trade dispute themselves, they allied with trade partner countries int he EU who supported their stances and attempted to bully other countries into accepting their wrongful practices (another state of mind that has continued to this day, because they realized it worked and they were not punished for it). this led to a call from smaller countries for there to be a court to oversee trade disputes in the bloc. The UK rejected this and said "if they don't trade fair, you can block their trade to your country, but you can't block their trade to other countries and the Uk vows to protect the freedom of navigation with our navy if necessary to prevent unlawful customs stops and highway robbery tariffs and fees."

the rest of europe said "nah! lets put it to a vote! EU Supreme court or we defend our rights to free trade individually?"

there were arguments, legal arguments, the UK and several other countries objected and refused to vote, saying they would exclude themselves from the vote and the outcome on the grounds that the European Supreme Court would become a court above all courts and that the members of the court were not elected by a democratic vote but rather instated by leaders of countries on a term limitless basic, and would start passing laws, they forbade it to pass laws that were above any one nation's laws, and thus objected to take part on these grounds.

the arguments turned into a discussion where other nations played down these fears legally stating that the court would only be for trade disputes to protect each country's rights and would not make or pass laws. in order to get britain to vote, they had to threaten to cut off britain's trade deal (sound familiar?).

it was in the first session of the EUSC that the new justices decided that actually, yes, it would be necessary for them to pass laws above the courts of the nations. there were arguments again, they had gone back on their word, they had lied. the EUSC calmed the nations down saying "the laws we pass will only be a reaffirming of nations rights to free trade, and will only concern trade." by these words they got britain and others to settle down and not pull out of the union. it wasn't long though before it was clear that the people that the government leaders had instated started voting in favor of the very countries (the majority, gee I wonder how that happened) that the nations had hope they would vote against. and laws began being passed that had nothing to do with trade and more to do with protecting cultures of certain nations, like "Bordeaux wine can only be from Bordeaux France" or "spanish dance is a protected right of spain" and so the EUSC started producing a patent and Intellectual property court, it wasn't long before they were regulating goods across the entire EU and mandating rights for minorities and passing civil behavioral laws..

again britian and others objected, the EUSC had broken their word! they had lied! they had gone beyond trade and started to work their fingers into everything becoming a government above the law.

nations began saying there was no democracy! they demanded there be an EU parliament and president to be a check and balance to the out of control EUSC. the UK and minority countries objected stating there didn;t need to be any law above any country, instead we should just ignore the EUSC and get rid of it's jurisdiction. other coutries argued it would just bring everythign back to square one. Britain argued that was for the best. but they were outvoted by the majority of nations the same majority who held the majority in the EUSC. and so there was then a EU parliament. and a EU president. Britain objected on the ground that they had no right to make laws above the UK's law. they insisted they would only moderate the EUSC and would not make laws. in order to get the UK to vote they threatened to revoke britain's trade deal (I'm seeing a pattern here).

it was off like fire on a gasoline soaked cabin in death valley when a smoker lights a cigarette, laws laws laws, they lied again! it wasn;t long then that they decided germany could join, then it wasn't long before germany was the unequivocal leader favourited by brussels on the grounds that they needed to treat germany special and nice because thats the only way to prevent another hitler. britain objected to germany joining so soon, they got britain to settle down by treatening to revoke britain's trade deal (there it is again).

they made their rules about how incoming trade deals had to go through an EU tribunal to descern what country they could go to favouring the lowest and poorest country (which at the time was the broken germany that had just torn down the berlin wall. germany quickly shot up to a strong trade country adn was repaired. but the deals kept goign to germany, and trade deals which ahd been other country's deals were absorbed into germany. an greece became a tourist resort, then went down hill from there, with no trade and no economy besides tourism much or europe suffered. but germany was fine.

then came the Eu projects, welfare projects to support the poorer nations (germany and spain were omitted from having to pay a large share) then the EU dues. but the money never really went where it was supposed to and the EU always found itself not being able to meet it's budgets. so they hit up the UK for money. again and again and again every year, sometimes multiple times a year every time they came up with a new project they wanted to do, very tie the then meek britain dared to raise it's voice the EU threatened to end trade with them..

needless to say the UK's currency tumbled a bit.

spain got rich, germany got rich, brussels got rich. and greece was left to suffer, then poland then others. this was about the time they started gaining eastern europe as part of the empire and the welfare bills just grew..

then sourthern Ireland decided they didn't like the church of england ruling over them and resorted to terrorism agants the north who supported it. they demanded to take sourthern ireland for their own country, and before britain could hold talks with them the EU jumped on it and intervened and declared they must be allowed to succeed as a separate republic. the EU found a second favourite child to hold over the UK's head to keep it from objecting to their totalitarianism. they treated Southern ireland well, very well, they gave it preference and money that it didn't deserve. it quickly joined the euro.

Britain attempted to garner trade deals, they had to fight to get any otherwise it'd go to germany. the EU central bank and the Euro headquarters became germany.

and meanwhile money that went to germany and southern ireland and all sorts of new humanitarian sexual rights projects wasn't going to greece and poland who over the next few years became a despot poverty pit. not to even talk about poland and eastern europe. and the Uk was left footing the majority of the bills.

this stayed that way for a long time. till one day when the Eu contacted the Uk about unpaid dues. they said "you know, you joined without signing the standard EU membership agreement and so in order to stay in you have to sign it, and because you're been a member so long without signing it you are bound to it's terms for the sake of your trade deal. you then owe us extra membership joining fees that you have never paid that come to the tone of 10 billion euros. also need we remind you that the standard EU membership agreement states that after 20 years of membership you need to joint he Euro currency, britain has failed to do so and must be punished!."

and so the prime minister of the time burdened with this sudden rediculous bill had a choice, refuse to pay (which would have consequenses) pay and jsut take it on the cuf and say good bye to the pound sterling. or something else.

in the end they decided on something else and told the EU "we will pay this outrageous bill, but there will be consequenses, I am putting article 50 to vote in the UK, the UK people will have a right to vote on weather they with to remain in the EU or leave."
in vote, Uk and EU citizens who believed they were british were allowed to vote.

pundits and polls and euro friendlies who controlled the media were shocked and abhored, they predicted that he would be voted out of office in a snap general election, they predicted if the vote came to be people in the Uk would vote to remain in the EU.

but then a sudden shock hit them on the brexit voting day, the majority of the vote more than 50% voted to leave. oh the horror and the media immediately jumped on the scaremongering wagon sayign the UK was doomed withotu the EU and that it ouldn't survive withotu it. then it was made clear by UK brexiteers that actually the Uk was stable in it's finances and industry and had no fears about leaving and that actually it'd be more profitable to seek exterior trade than with the bloc.

the bloc was abhored they licked their greasy pig fingers and snorted some quick cash in protest. they started selling off their UK assets and pulling money out of the UK. the pound fell, but then started to rise slowly again. They couldn't beat the strength of the british market even combined, even after more than 70 years of battering it. they resorted to media pushes for the minority of remainers saying the remainers should have a second chance and that the UK was wrong for listening to the majority and should just forget about all this silly brexit business.

they were scared, they were scared of a no deal brexit and what would happen if nrothern ireland was allowed to trade freely (they knew Southern Ireland would trade with it secretly) and demanded that somethign be done about northern ireland to then primeminister May.

they knew that if they reprimanded southern ireland or put up a hard border ont he EU side that southern ireland would protest and exit adn it'd take a huge chuck out of their economy. their worst fear had become a realization, the best strategy next was to drag the Uk through the mud over this, they had to make an example of the Uk make it seem like leaving was bad or others might consider doing it. the EU could cease to be!

mostly they were soe that the nanny mc moneybags was leaving, leaving! who would they get their money from now?! Spain would leave if they asked it to pay, germany might go nazi if they ask it to pay, southern ireland wasn't really worth anything they couldn't ask it to pay. they were financially sunk! they'd have to abandon their projects. no. they needed change. they needed a different voter base, they needed to change and control the nations that were left. luckily for them there were people trying to sneak into the UK, bad sorts of people, people who were poor and criminals and coming from totalitarian regimes who had never known fairness and knew only creating and lieing and raping. they were on europes doorsstep beggin to come in. and so germany allowed them into europe mandating that they must be allowed to enter.

George soros began using his billions to buy up maritime human rights groups and give them big boats, cruise ships to go to northern africa and bring more black people to change europe and erase it's culture. they didn't expect the yellow vests would come and protest enmass.

they didn;t expect Itally would fight it. they didn;t expet that italy would deny them port and expell their precious refugees. they didn;t expect they'd ahve to send them to spain who quickly complained.

it got out of control.

back in the UK may attempted to push forwards several deals such as a canada style deal, a norway syle deal and several iterations of a british deal, the EU rejected them all saying "not enough has been done to clear up the irish border issue plus you need to settle the divorce bill" a snap general election was called by PM May who then found herself in a bare majority government and had to work with others to pass anything. this led to her trying to please remainers by suggesting to only partially leave in principle but stay in general. this made, this resulted in multiple members of her cabinet quitting. She had lost her mind and her majority, even her negotiators to the EU quit, twice. she now had her own party fighting against her her own party was now in a bid for no deal.

then she went to the EU and they gave her a deal that the EU had put together, a bad deal, the worst deal a deal that would steal northern ireland from the UK by making it a special EU zone outside the UK until some other arragement the EU approved of could be made. a deal that would keep the UK under the jurisdiction of the EUSC and EU parliament after it left with no right to vote or speak against it and no way out. a deal that would forbid the Uk from entering or negotiating exterior trade deals without EU consent. it was a trap!

it became known as "May's Deal" and the Eu were licking their fingers again and plotting like the happy salesman. except somethign they didn't foresee happened; the deal was rejected by the british parliament! Twice! and the last rejection was a clear majority and the worst defeat ever for anything ever brought before the UK parliament. yet may and the EU refused to change the bill, they wont allow it, they wanted to drag down the clock and get a last minute agreement, they wanted to scaremonger about no deal to ensure that this bad deal or staying in the EU was the only option.

but then the speaker of the house called upon a rule of the house of the Uk parliament that any one thing that is very close to being the same thing cannot be voted on in the house repeatedly. this was in response to may's call for a third vote on the same deal.

the result was the Eu's deal was now not possible to be voted on again, it had to change. but the best May and the EU could do was stall and try to avoid no deal. in the end, this came to a scare tactic, the EU said they would only extend the brexit date if the deal was voted into order. in an attempt to scare the UK parliament into voting in May's deal. Except as the day went on they found that this bolstered the no deal thoughts of the cabinet and even forced may to convene to no deal war room to bash out a plan of what they would do if they are forced to leave without a deal and how they will handle britain outside the EU.

this forced the EU to add in a concession on the extension without conditions. and thats where we are right now, britain will vote again on May's deal on the 28th and if not or if it's voted down a third time then the UK parliament without may will come up on their own desired deal. and if the Eu wont accept that then the Uk leaves on april 12th with no deal. and right now there is a moderate sized group in the house of commons who hold enough votes to reject may's deal and are holding out for no deal. they also have the votes to if they can't get a good deal vote down any other deal and force a no deal.

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Post Re: The History of the EU and Brexit and Predicitons
Predictions:

This is a second post because the first one was long enough.

The votes do not exist in the house of commons for May and the EU's deal. it will be voted down if it gets a vote. it has already been voted down 2 times and the animus against it has not been rectified or solved as in the main problems with the bill still exist and have not changed, the house of commons will vote it down.

It's likely that the speaker of the house will not even let the same deal come before the house for a vote because it's against the rules for something that is the same or similar to something that has already been voted down from being voted on again unless there is a call from enough members of the house to allow the vote to take place at which time there will not be.

this means May and the EU's deal is impossible. The house of comons seems to have the most support for a norway style deal, but norway+ (meaning they want a few extras because of their special circumstances such as geography and connection to southern ireland and connection to france by the euro tunnel. the Eu will most likely vote it down and remain pigheaded that the only deal they are prepared to offer is the one they already gave May.

this will result in a no deal exit from the EU. which will result in a resignation of PM May and several other remainer politicians. a snap general election will be called, it is known that Jeremy Corbyn will run for Prime Minister on the ticket of rejoining the EU. with 54% of the UK having voted for brexit they are unlikely to give it up when they've just got it. however the seat of prime minister does not rely on public vote but rather on votes of the house of commons after the election for a new prime minister. It is unlikely that people will vote labour, it is unlikely that jeremy Corbyn will continue to possess enough remainer votes to get him into the Prime minister's seat.

The likely outcome is another hung parliament where a brexiteer has some sort of cooperation with another party (probably the N Irish) to get enough votes to be Prime Minister. After that there will be a hard up hill battle to get the commons to approve new trade deals such as the USA's Trump deal offer. Corbyn and other remainers will fight against any exterior deals vehemently! and ferociously! because they know that the moment such an exterior trade deal is approved by the commons there ceases to be a possibility to rejoin the EU (because the EU wont have it, they don't like countries to just exit to establish trade deals and return, they'll say it violates the rules of rejoining the EU). after the first exterior deal is ratified it'll quiet down and you may see a lot of resignations from remainers.

Expect the SNP to call for a referendum to leave the UK and join the EU, expect it to fail like it always has. expect them to say it's not enough and call for another one to be held shortly in the future claiming "people may have changed their minds since yesterday" in some sort of attempt to wear down the voters till a leave vote can be obtained. Westminster will not allow such referendum abuse.

Expect italy, hungary and austria to exit the Eu, expect the EU to put up a hard border on the southern irish side, expect the UK to refuse to do so on the UK side. expect a southern irish squabble with the EU, expect either special rules and treatment for Southern ireland or a southern irish exit fromt he EU. if there are special rules for southern ireland expect the EU to blow up from the inside when every country demands those special rules for them too. if alot of these states exit the EU, expect the welfare money to stop for greece and poland and expect them to exit so they can manage their own trade to get back on their feet from the couch.

in short expect to watch the agonizing death of the EU and Euro and the fight for freedom state by state of the european people.

so in short, do not invest in the Euro, even if it looks like it's gaining fast right after brexit, it's all for show, the EU loyals will attempt to trash the pound after brexit is over, so the pound may fall initially, but this is the time to buy because it wil rise very fast shortly after. (so long as it doesn't rejoin the EU, that would kill the UK's economy). but yeah the Euro will be no more, not too long in the future. or at least the Euro will be confined to a much smaller group of nations as you can expect others to exit. expect the last ones int he EU to be brussels, germany maybe france and spain, sweeden, norway and amsterdam. expect it to tun into a cartel country like mexico or colombia. yes they are expected to merge possibly into some form of neo soviet union.

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It's like Nazism once again! What Dark Ages barbarism! Watch for the blitz!

Whoa yeah, fuck that EU net regulation shit. I saw something like that on a billboard. By the way, let us not get distracted by the FCC-EU coalition. Serious Central/Axis Powers shit raining down!

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I love it when my predictions start flopping into place.

so, here's the skinny, as I predicted May attempted to get a third vote on her deal on the 28th, she managed to get it to a vote by splitting the deal into 2 parts and trying to get people to vote on the divorce agreement first rather than any actual trade agreements. just as I predicted that vote FLAILED in the wind and then crashed and burned. Simple; because both halfs of the deal she got from the EU were equally as bad.

the Divorce agreement had already been denied by the house in majority, I have no idea why she thought she could get it passed on it's own. there were two contentious parts of May's deal, the divorce money and the northern irish backstop, she split each into a different part to be voted on. what did she expect? of course it'd me a no vote!


recently may attempted to say that Northern Ireland would support her deal or if there was a no deal they would call a vote to unite with southern ireland, she said the north was much more open to the south because the south became more open about gay rights and had a gay PM... she is way out of touch, the irish parliament voted against her deal as if protesting her claims of their opinions! in short, Northern Ireland is against gay rights. so they are more opposed to a "united ireland" now than ever.

another prediction come true, the SNP did one of their 1000 people polls in a euro friendly district of scotland without verifying if the people were actually scottish citizens who were able to vote and according to that poll they said there is a clear majority of people who have changed their minds about leaving the UK and joining the EU, she said there is now a majority for leaving the UK, and is attempting to get permission to hold a referendum.

Permission will not be granted till after brexit is done and settled. and yeah their poll was skewed it was not a representative sample it was cherry picking, so I still predict that the vote will be not to leave the UK. many of the scottish voted to leave the EU, you must remember that, many of them want no deal (I've talked to them), why would they leave the UK when they are about to get what they voted for? why would they rejoin the EU after voting to leave it?

yeah, scotland has a majority vote to become independent, BUT it's conditional; they don't want to leave the Uk to join the EU, they want to leave the UK to become an independent nation. however the sturgeon in charge of the SNP always makes the referendum known that it is to leave the Uk and join the EU, something she can't and will never get a majority vote for. most of scotland doesn't even feel represented by sturgeon and her cronies.


Next up, the Uk parliament has already held votes on what they are willing to support, there is no clear majority for anything, however a No deal exit is up by 50 votes bringing it to 109 votes. that's 1/4th the parliament easily no backing and holding out for no deal.

the most popular deal was the norway+ deal (as predicted), but it still doesn't have a majority, the second most popular thing was a Referendum on the outcome (meaning a vote by the public on whatever deal the government agrees to) but even it didn't get a majority vote. Right now the parliament is split and divided with no real consensus on what they will agree to. This plays into the No Deal scenario, where 109 votes will hold out for a lack of consensus at the last day April 12th and force a no deal exit.

However after reading the EU's minds it is now clear to me that they and May are not willing to back down, May has said she is plotting to include her bill on the voting table for the vote on monday, (it will not be allowed, or will fail miserably), the EU is planning on giving the UK infinite extensions so long as it takes part in the EU Parliament elections, with the mindset in the House of Commons being that the most down voted idea out of all ideas they came up with was "remaining in the EU", I sense an animus against the EU and a willingness to leave, this means the parliament will not have a majority that is willing to vote for an extension beyond May 22 because they are not willing (on principle) to take part in the EU elections after voting to leave..

I predict that the commons will vote down any such extension byt the PM "May" may agree to another delay without the commons permission, at which time she will be found "Out of Order" in the commons and removed, this will spawn a leadership contest and a general election. May herself has already hinted (As I predicted) that she wants to call a general election, she cites it's an attempt to break the deadlock and get a majority parliament of some type. but in reality she is just afraid of no deal she sees and the Eu now sees that that is the most likely outcome of this deadlock, and that scares the hitler out of them. so they are tryng desperately to delay and deflect and keep pushing.

I'm predicting the UK will vote against a delay longer than May 22. but it is possible they will vote for a may 22nd extension, so don't think this is goign away yet. Do expect the EU to attempt to demand that the only extension they will give is beyond May 22nd to try to force a 4th vote on May's deal or force the UK to abandon their principles and take part in EU elections. expect it to backfire at the last second, expect a stupefied look on the EU's faces as the Uk chooses to "crash out" rather than vote in EU elections or ratify their deal. expect the EU to be made the public laughing stock over it, but not by the media, expect the media to take a serious tone and call it a sad day or a day of mourning. but expect people to laugh.

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Post Re: The History of the EU and Brexit and Predicitons
I don't know what the hell is the EU elections, but I believe that each member state would vote and elect their own council member to represent.

Not to mention a series of mishaps regarding a certain poisoned spy or something like that... Very edgy stuff, but probably to be cautious when bringing that fact out in the open. Make room, make room!

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Ah, the EU elections, Yes, thats what thy are, but the UK would reject and has just this week rejectd that outcome, they demand to not undergo the EU elections (leave before May 22 at the latest) out of principle and out of legal order.

the reason being is that by taking part in the EU elections it would mean they are still part of the EU and they would be electing a member to the EU parliament for a term that would exceed brexit thus making the UK have ties to and responsibilities to the EU parliament and laws until that term is over.

it could be and usually is years. it'd be years that the Uk would be exited but still under EU law and unable to strike international trade deals on it's own.

in short, it would be seen legally as "cancelling brexit".

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There are now 150 MPs of the UK house of commons holding out for a no deal brexit, up 41 from the last count. well over 1/3rd of parliament's 400 some odd votes. 1/2.666666666666~th, 0.666~ away from a majority of 1/2! 50 more votes is all they need.

right now miraculously some Labour are backing no deal, after months of furiously pushing for a second referendum and following their leader Corbyn in trying to push to cancel article 50, now they have struck a different tone because UK elections are coming up and they are from brexit "leave" voting areas of the UK. they know if they stuck with "remain" politics or "soft brexit" politics they would not be reelected.


In fact it was the 2 sided threat (both may and remainers like corbyn threatened to force a snap general election in the near future before April 12th) of a snap general election that scared these votes into place, so now this has garnered 41 more votes. Some last second changes of heart where they hope it'll save their butt in any snap general election.

There are now several senior brexiteer torries (conservative party) vying and campaigning for the leadership of their party and May wont stand a chance, it is now guaranteed that if a snap general election is called a brexiteer torry will be Prime Minister if the conservative party gets a majority of seats in the house.

this means that even if a deal like May's bad deal is signed or even if they manage to push a soft brexit through in the wee hours of the 12th, a torry PM will soon follow and can cancel that deal and push throughh another (if they have a strong cabinet in their favour.

It is likely that they will as 54% of britain voted "leave", in the recent snap general election there weren;' many choices, many districts ran unchallenged with a remainer as the only MP option to vote for. but now, things have changed there are already competing brexiteers vying for major MP seats in these districts, even in the Scottish parliament which at present is Uber EU Liberal, (they might finally get that fish of a scottish PM out of office!).

so the political climate has changed and you will start hearing a lot less about canceling article 50, except from ministers who are from "remain" voting regions (which is a minority).

Right now some Torries and some Labour comprise 150 members holding out for no deal. They already have the votes necessary to (if they are cautious) bleed the other brexit options out of a majority vote. So long as there are more than 2 options (right now there were 4 of the previous 8) the brexiteers can slyly cause no majority except for no deal.

I can predict the DUP (Northern Irish) who are already opposed to May's deal and whose public is increasingly calling for a hard brexit could see 50 of their number vote No Deal in a later vote.

whatever and whereever the votes come from, as the clock ticks closer to a general election see more members vying for harder and harder brexits if not a no deal brexit. And if they don't expect them to lose their seats in the election. it'll be Donald Trump shocking to the remainer movement. They will find that actually a lot of remainers are now willing to vote leave after this fiasco where the EU has bullied the UK and dragged us through the mud. and where brexiteers are just emboldened to push for the final outcome.

Expect May to try to get a Fourth vote on her deal or some part of it, expect it to fail, at this point and in the forseeable future MPs are finished with her deal, it's "dead in the water" and has been called such. MPs are more focused on trying to get their own deals through. they've had 2 years now where they were unable to even bring their ideas to the floor! so yeah it's like a man lost in the wilderness for 2 years, finally getting access to hentai again. There will be much fapping. and in this case fapping is attempting to get their own deal through.

If May brings up her deal a 4th time it'll be a situation of "so lets talk about our deal and... " "hi here's my 3 time defeated deal lets vote on it in the last second" "... so as we were saying lets talk abut a different deal."

the northern Irish are staunchly opposed to it, they have over 100 votes, add that together with 150 pushing for no deal and you get 250 votes easy. Enough to definitively deny May's deal. (not to mention other votes from remainers who hate it too)

in the most recent vote Norway+ lost votes which went to "No deal"

Even so there are 2 final outcomes here, even if the MPs vote in majority on any topic it's first upto May to accept their position, if not she can keep pushing for her deal and possibly extending the time limit. however she only gets one last push for her deal as the speaker will prevent any part of her deal being voted on again once all parts are voted on (there's only 1 more half to vote on and it contains the Irish backstop)

IF May realizes that her deal can no longer be brought forth to vote on, and accepts parliament's deal (instead of calling a snap election) there's one last hurdle, the EU parliament. they have already said they are not budging on their deal so if the deal the UK parliament comes up with is different the EU will reject it and send May back to tell them it's failed.

but the outcome still remains; That the british parliament does not have a majority for staying in the EU, and will not after a general election (this is the main reason one has not been called yet, they thought there were more remainers now than before int he voting public, recently they realized they were wrong and the online petition with over 6 million signiatures was liberals from all over the world not just the UK). The UK parliament does not have a majority for an extension beyond May 22 (because there is no majority that wants to cancel brexit and take part in the EU elections.)

And one final problem, technically the last extension they got to April 12th was never ratified by the house of lords. that means it's in legal limbo until they sign it, and if they don't sign it or express such thats means the extension was invalid and the UK has already exited with no deal!

that is... unlikely as most of the house of lords are remainers and are not bound to public elections. But.. there is a chance they could pull that card out of fury for the financial ramifications that these talks and delays are already having. If they do pull that card expect it to be on the 12th or close to it. OR expect them to pull it if there is another extension attempted to May 22 or beyond before they vote on the first. expect the to disrupt it with a vote on the first to cancel it. causing the Uk to already have been exited and the second extension to be legally unbinding and out of order because the EU and Uk are no longer together.

it's possible but not likely. the house of lords is likely to approve any extensions as they have a lot of money in EU banks and properties.

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Post Re: The History of the EU and Brexit and Predicitons
May has admitted defeat, she now realizes that her deal will not pass a vote in parliament. having given up on the idea and realizing that a majority of the conservative party and a majority of the labour party now think no deal is fine and swanky, she has abandoned her party (which could be used as a technicality to say she has resigned from her party and used to immediately oust her (as the conservatives are the majority, and only they can hold the PM seat, if may is no longer a conservative the conservatives need to immediately elect a new prime minister))

May however refuses to give up on a soft brexit (or cancelling brexit, she feels it's fine now to cancel it) she has begun courting Jeremy Corbyn of the labour party to attempt to get some form of deal that can carry the UK out of the EU.

what she fails to realize though is
1: Corbyn doesn't want to leave, he wants to remain.
2: the house does not have enough votes to support a cancellation of article 50 (that fell flat on it's face).
3: The EU refuses to negotiate any other deal than the one they gave her, so they will reject any other deal given to them if it does not contain a Northern Irish backstop, and does not contain their courts and parliament having control of the UK.
4: commons will vote down any "deal" that has a northern Irish backstop or sees the EU courts and parliament having power over UK trade and law.


New news, the House of Lords is now voting on the extension bill, they are voting on weather there can be an extension past April 12th. there has been a selection of Lords who were filibustering. as in they disapprove and thing the UK should exit on April 12th regardless. they believe No Deal could be good. they have been giving long speeches to hold up the process. and in the end the filibuster came to an end after 7 hours. However it did not end there now come the talks and deliberations. this process usually takes months but the PM and EU supporters are trying to fast track it because they realize there will not be any deal or progress or majority by April 12th.


Useless stuff:

for the second time the house of commons passed a legislation which denies the possibility of the Uk exiting the EU without a deal. this legislation expresses that the majority may not want no deal, but the legislation is not binding, it's not some magic thing that will prevent an exit without a deal. This being because they also voted against there being a cancellation of brexit.

these conflicts of opinion will eventually have to be resolved, and if another extension cannot be obtained (which is at this point questionable) they'll be forced to make that decision on April 12th.

In other News the Northern Irish party (DUP) has made their stance clear, they do not support any deal with a customs union with the EU. (this means they want a clean break, they want no deal).

the DUP conservatives and some of labour are now holding out for no deal (though some are still reluctant to vote for it, they may not realize that is what they are saying they want), with 250 possible votes in their hands that does put them in a minority (I was wrong before there are like 600 votes not 400 something) it is likely they are holding out on the other parties to bicker away the clock. (As the other parties cannot find common ground to vote for).

it is looking like Northern ireland may be considering independence if the UK joins a customs union with the EU after exiting. the north however will not be joining the EU themselves, they will instead get the no deal brexit they wanted.

the fish in charge of Scotland is trying to save her hide knowing the elections are coming up, she a few days ago was talkign about exiting the Uk and rejoining the EU and a referendum to match, but now she has changed her tone after realizing that this is not what Scotland wants. she now criticizes May's attempts to strike a deal with the labour party. she said "it's doomed to fail and not what the UK wants" which is correct, if only she really knew the whole truth of what the UK wants.

The House of Lords is likely to not approve any extension beyond May 22. right now the legislation before them is for an extension to "???", it was intentionally left open because the house of commons doesn't know what date the EU will allow. This is why the house of lords is protesting the bill, they want it to have a clear date, if left open it could spell endless continuation of brexit extensions well pas the EU elections. But this is not what either house wants. neither house wants to take part in those elections so it'll be a chance of if there are enough remainers to get such a thing passed.

In the end the EU has to set the extension date on he 10th when may returns to them, if the house of lords is not finished deliberating by then, she will not have the authority to ask for an extension.

Further more if may cannot get an exit deal that will pass the commons by the 10th the EU is likely to refuse to give another extension (they will probably buckle though if it looks like it would cause a no deal exit, because they are afraid of a no deal exit).

BUT any extension given by the EU will have to be voted through by the parliament, and right now the votes are increasingly opposed to any extension beyond May 22nd, if it came down to the EU only offering a Long Extension beyond May 22nd (as they have claimed is the only next step) expect the commons to sink it, and expect lots of shenanigans in the last 2 days.

Expect May to try to push her deal for a 4th final hour vote, expect it to fail.

Expect May to push for a vote on Corbyn and Her deal, expect it to fail.

Expect the parliament to hold votes on what exit they can agree to, expect there to be either no majority or a bare bones majority for a norway style deal (expect the EU to reject it as it does not contain a Northern Irish backstop).

Expect lot more unbinding votes to reject a no deal exit.

Expect lots of talk in the next 5 days of a snap general election. It may even be called on the last day April 11th as some sort of hail mary to break the deadlock.

Right now May Corbyn and the Fish Sturgeon do not want to call for a general election because they realze after the Brexit supporter march the other day that, yes even in the big cities there is a majority far greater than the remainer march that wants a no deal exit. brexiteers would definitely have a majority after any snap general election so May and the remainers are refusing to hold a snap general election because the outcome is not in their favour.

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Sounds like some corrupt swindling politics thing going on.

The conservatives ought to push hard till the end, you don't know if trump usurper of usurpy serpents will grant may and her cronies a wish for their very souls. Sudden magical illusions! >:)

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Today, my prediction from a while back came true:

May resigned as prime minister effective June 7th.

Boris johnson seems poised to take the position, he is a hard brexiteer.

Also the EU elections took place (because may forced it without permission of the commons) and Nigel Farage's brexit party is winning by leaps and bounds.


The EU is crumbling Euroskeptic parties from all over the EU are surging in the polls (because of the immigrant problems.)

The way forward now is that Boris johnson will try one last time to negotiate with the EU by playing hardball and threatening to leave without a deal and not pay them (EU) a penny.

While it's true that boris will not have a majority in parliament, the fact of the matter is there is no majority for anything in parliament, there is no majority to revoke article 50 (and stay in the EU), there is no majority for May's deal, there is no majority for any sort of deal that includes an irish backstop, no majority for a customs union, no majority for a second referendum or a confirmatory referendum. and while there may be no majority for a no deal brexit all boris will have to do is force parliament's hands by refusing to ask for or accept any further extensions.

At which point the UK will leave the EU no later than october 31st without any deal in place.

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The real reason of Brexit is that the EU is looking more like a front of Nazi Germany. I don't know how it got usurped, but they were definitely planning something for quite a while! This is basically imperialism, colonialism, war of aggression, crime of aggression, crime against peace, crime against humanity, (attempted) policide/genocide/politicide, and (attempted) war crimes. This is where the United Nations keeps acts like these in check.

My guess is that the former Axis try to pass the right of conquest/usurpation/(soft) coup through NATO channels. Of course, they have to assert power and control over NATO members. Regional states and territories are convenient targets. Even then, they must also override the Nuremberg Principles of the United Nations. However, the EU happens to be the most convenient step towards a Nazi resurgence. It doesn't matter if there is NATO or UN majority, the EU is the closest thing to Nazification, if not a handout/reward for war crimes. Because some/most of the EU members are unitary/centralized states, they might might some association/complication with Nazification. It might be an irony that a majority of regional unitary/centralized states would reign supreme as Nazis, just like WWII. What I'm just trying to say is that while there is presumption of innocence, the original reason of such organizations to exist was to bring about justice. In short, the UN needs to at least, assert its spotlight over insidious EU and WTO activities.

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About George Soros, don't trust this guy. He isn't just some pro-immigrant invasion activist. He had already committed crimes of economical sabotage against the Bank of England in the year 1994. I can't believe the UN didn't call out or indict Soros for such acts. Do anybody think that there would be a humanist nature for such an act? It is almost the equivalent of the besieging Battle of Britain. I mean, he got the reputation of "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England"! If that doesn't cut it, his political commitment to invest the EU over UN, is a front to rebuild Nazi Europe back to power. I don't give a shit (not care, not 2 bits, not 2 cents [although, 2 cents can be interpreted as scent{s}/shit{s}]) about his 'humble' background. He was born during the war. What does that mean? How would you know? Is that credential? Well, he was certainly promoting more EU than any of the NATO/Allies members. This blind promotion is undermining the efforts of the International Military Tribunal (IMT) and other military tribunals. Instead of tolerating and suffering from EU, there could be a economic coalition just in case. Something like UNU, IMTU of place from time to time, Allies Union, or some regional or multi/transnational establishment (e.g. Atlantic, Pacific, etc).

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