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If someone were to scribble a body for Albert I could model it and rig it simple style. so tell me what you want.


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joshex wrote:
If someone were to scribble a body for Albert I could model it and rig it simple style. so tell me what you want.


It shall be done in the most honored and traditional of methods.

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OK, thats really easy to make. If Tent is ok with this design I'll get it done. One does need to think about the needs in-game for the character. if he has anything to do/interact with that requires more than a simple stick figure body, then let me know.

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
joshex wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
TENT wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
Think we could assemble a new model from scratch?


no need to - someone was nice enough to merge widowmaker's 2 models, head and hands and body as one model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHTlaQIp_s


Oh, okay. That's another hurdle cleared...

TENT wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
Think we could assemble a new model from scratch?


hold on, if you want to make a new model for ALBERT JOHNSON I could do the sounds for that and that could be a character in hatred lol.


Fuck yes. Hey, Joshex, you seein' this shit?


lol ok, I can do that. right now I have albert as a simple Bot type character (all body parts are floating in mid air and separate) albert's high res face pic is pasted on the head peice. only problem is I don't own the rights to that bot character, it was another blender dev's model from years and years back so if your game makes any money I'd advise giving albert a new body. (I have since made some rigging updates to it for easier animation (Thankyou Maid-san!)).

If someone were to scribble a body for Albert I could model it and rig it simple style. so tell me what you want.

Oh, also Tent, what model formats can Unreal engine or whatever you are using import?


I think it's .FBX format. This isn't for money. It'd be a free mod for the game Hatred.

Where to get hatred.
https://www.indiegala.com/store/game/hatred/341940_ig

It'd be a simple 3D circle or a stick figure that's rigged to the hatred skeleton and then I'm guessing you'd then slap the texture on ALBERT in the hatred editor which comes with hatred.

I admit I don't know 3D modelling or unreal engine 4. All I can do is yell all the albert johnson sounds. Which I'll do if get a preview of albert in hatred.


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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
this is the tutorial for how to add a custom character which I got stuck on.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =622172730


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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
TENT wrote:
joshex wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
TENT wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
Think we could assemble a new model from scratch?


no need to - someone was nice enough to merge widowmaker's 2 models, head and hands and body as one model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHTlaQIp_s


Oh, okay. That's another hurdle cleared...

TENT wrote:
YomToxic wrote:
Think we could assemble a new model from scratch?


hold on, if you want to make a new model for ALBERT JOHNSON I could do the sounds for that and that could be a character in hatred lol.


Fuck yes. Hey, Joshex, you seein' this shit?


lol ok, I can do that. right now I have albert as a simple Bot type character (all body parts are floating in mid air and separate) albert's high res face pic is pasted on the head peice. only problem is I don't own the rights to that bot character, it was another blender dev's model from years and years back so if your game makes any money I'd advise giving albert a new body. (I have since made some rigging updates to it for easier animation (Thankyou Maid-san!)).

If someone were to scribble a body for Albert I could model it and rig it simple style. so tell me what you want.

Oh, also Tent, what model formats can Unreal engine or whatever you are using import?


I think it's .FBX format. This isn't for money. It'd be a free mod for the game Hatred.

Where to get hatred.
https://www.indiegala.com/store/game/hatred/341940_ig

It'd be a simple 3D circle or a stick figure that's rigged to the hatred skeleton and then I'm guessing you'd then slap the texture on ALBERT in the hatred editor which comes with hatred.

I admit I don't know 3D modelling or unreal engine 4. All I can do is yell all the albert johnson sounds. Which I'll do if get a preview of albert in hatred.


ah. ok. does the game auto-rig models or does it require the user to do so outside of the game?

if it autorigs, I'll make the model and send it and see how it goes. I can do .fbx.

if it does not auto-rig, I will need some modder's articles on the specific rig you are mentioning. there may or may not be an export setting for such a specific rig in blender or it may require specific object/bone names etc. either way if other people already do this sort of thing, it's highly likely theres some howto article.

but yeah I'll make it and we'll research rigging during the process.

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this is the tutorial for how to add a custom character which I got stuck on.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... =622172730


yep thought so. I knew there'd be some sort of self help articles around.

ok I asked some questions on their discord
https://discord.com/channels/6448624671 ... 3128923136

that will tell me what I need to know to do this. should be simple.

one note the article you linked, says that you should import the model and rig without materials and textures, and says you can add them later. that might be worth testing, but I'd suggest import with materials and textures because otherwise it's gonna be a stick figure and thats all. oh well we can try it both ways and see which the game likes. I'll get on building it tomorrow.

I hope we don't have this problem:
https://blenderartists.org/t/bones-look ... n/694572/4

it says that UE4 uses different axies for the bones than blender causing them the rotate funky in blender, if you change this it wont work in UE4 games. if you get the right rotations and do it in blender, I'm not sure if it will actually export to EU4 right or not. it's worth a try though.

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
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Thanks for doing this man you're awesome. If you work this out do you think you could do the female hatred mod which is the topic of this thread. I got a friend to do the female sounds of a hatred character called widowmaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P95gYVZM5c

Either way, I'll start on some of the Albert Johnson sounds needed for this project so it's voiced by AJ instead of the voice of the hatred guy. I'll post a preview soon.


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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
TENT wrote:
@joshex
Thanks for doing this man you're awesome. If you work this out do you think you could do the female hatred mod which is the topic of this thread. I got a friend to do the female sounds of a hatred character called widowmaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P95gYVZM5c

Either way, I'll start on some of the Albert Johnson sounds needed for this project so it's voiced by AJ instead of the voice of the hatred guy. I'll post a preview soon.


if I had the model, maybe. but something tells me it'll lose something in importing/converting. I'd likely have to import it in blender 2.5, it's impossible to navigate and work in blender 2.5 though because they broke the hotkeys, so I'll then have to save and open it in blender 2.49b, it may lose some of it's data for the rig in the process.

make and rigging a nice female model takes a while. Even just the rigging could take a bit.

if this does work I'm willing to give it a go though.

edit, lol I'm an idiot. if this works with albert, I'll already have a working rig in blender to add the female mesh onto so it wont matter if I lose much in translation. and yeah mesh modding is pretty easy. should be a breaze

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
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so far so good. I have him as a shadeless black stick figure mirroring Yom's drawing, but I gave him a butt, a chest and an adams apple and knees of a sort. I'm thinking of giving him a stick figure rage boner. but not yet. Next is the head and hands.

hands done.

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should he be a ball head?

ball head:

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I'll mishape his ballhead like the original.

deformation complete:

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
joshex wrote:
TENT wrote:
@joshex
Thanks for doing this man you're awesome. If you work this out do you think you could do the female hatred mod which is the topic of this thread. I got a friend to do the female sounds of a hatred character called widowmaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P95gYVZM5c

Either way, I'll start on some of the Albert Johnson sounds needed for this project so it's voiced by AJ instead of the voice of the hatred guy. I'll post a preview soon.


if I had the model, maybe. but something tells me it'll lose something in importing/converting. I'd likely have to import it in blender 2.5, it's impossible to navigate and work in blender 2.5 though because they broke the hotkeys, so I'll then have to save and open it in blender 2.49b, it may lose some of it's data for the rig in the process.

make and rigging a nice female model takes a while. Even just the rigging could take a bit.

if this does work I'm willing to give it a go though.

edit, lol I'm an idiot. if this works with albert, I'll already have a working rig in blender to add the female mesh onto so it wont matter if I lose much in translation. and yeah mesh modding is pretty easy. should be a breaze


There's already a female model it's called Widowmaker and it's in the hatred editor under SurvivalPlayers>SurvivalFemale.

joshex wrote:
Image

so far so good. I have him as a shadeless black stick figure mirroring Yom's drawing, but I gave him a butt, a chest and an adams apple and knees of a sort. I'm thinking of giving him a stick figure rage boner. but not yet. Next is the head and hands.

hands done.

Image

should he be a ball head?

ball head:

Image

I'll mishape his ballhead like the original.

deformation complete:

Image


Looking really good!

I've done 72 out of about 200 of the hatred sounds for albert johnson so I've made a start, here's a fake trailer of albert johnson in hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Oykv9xkj4

Also I had some ideas for music for the Albert Johnson hatred mod.

Menu Music - Forkheads - I hate you (by klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hknVMMgdKM8

level 1 Home - Forkheads - adelaide song (by TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe9GDl0RL-8

Level 2 sewers - Forkheads - Aquarius (by TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNukG9D9ivk

Level 3 Marina - Forkheads - Corky Poindexter (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmZ5ePcF5Uk

Level 4 Train - Forkheads - Plane on fire (clean) (By TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gNkqvaFA-0

Level 5 truck stop - Forkheads - Piano Smasher (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS94eC7wAyI

Level 6 Train station - Forkheads - YottaByte (By TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLp_WSW2X_c

Level 7 Downtown - Forkheads - Reverse Fibonacci (By Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXibPZa_sZU

Level 8 Army Base - Forkheads - Elevator Music (By tent)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LlGbOgZhuQ

Level 9 Power Plant - Forkheads - Break them (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUjXRcH1xk

None of this music is under copyright.


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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
TENT wrote:
joshex wrote:
TENT wrote:
@joshex
Thanks for doing this man you're awesome. If you work this out do you think you could do the female hatred mod which is the topic of this thread. I got a friend to do the female sounds of a hatred character called widowmaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P95gYVZM5c

Either way, I'll start on some of the Albert Johnson sounds needed for this project so it's voiced by AJ instead of the voice of the hatred guy. I'll post a preview soon.


if I had the model, maybe. but something tells me it'll lose something in importing/converting. I'd likely have to import it in blender 2.5, it's impossible to navigate and work in blender 2.5 though because they broke the hotkeys, so I'll then have to save and open it in blender 2.49b, it may lose some of it's data for the rig in the process.

make and rigging a nice female model takes a while. Even just the rigging could take a bit.

if this does work I'm willing to give it a go though.

edit, lol I'm an idiot. if this works with albert, I'll already have a working rig in blender to add the female mesh onto so it wont matter if I lose much in translation. and yeah mesh modding is pretty easy. should be a breaze


There's already a female model it's called Widowmaker and it's in the hatred editor under SurvivalPlayers>SurvivalFemale.

joshex wrote:
Image

so far so good. I have him as a shadeless black stick figure mirroring Yom's drawing, but I gave him a butt, a chest and an adams apple and knees of a sort. I'm thinking of giving him a stick figure rage boner. but not yet. Next is the head and hands.

hands done.

Image

should he be a ball head?

ball head:

Image

I'll mishape his ballhead like the original.

deformation complete:

Image


Looking really good!

I've done 72 out of about 200 of the hatred sounds for albert johnson so I've made a start, here's a fake trailer of albert johnson in hatred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Oykv9xkj4

Also I had some ideas for music for the Albert Johnson hatred mod.

Menu Music - Forkheads - I hate you (by klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hknVMMgdKM8

level 1 Home - Forkheads - adelaide song (by TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe9GDl0RL-8

Level 2 sewers - Forkheads - Aquarius (by TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNukG9D9ivk

Level 3 Marina - Forkheads - Corky Poindexter (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmZ5ePcF5Uk

Level 4 Train - Forkheads - Plane on fire (clean) (By TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gNkqvaFA-0

Level 5 truck stop - Forkheads - Piano Smasher (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS94eC7wAyI

Level 6 Train station - Forkheads - YottaByte (By TENT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLp_WSW2X_c

Level 7 Downtown - Forkheads - Reverse Fibonacci (By Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXibPZa_sZU

Level 8 Army Base - Forkheads - Elevator Music (By tent)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LlGbOgZhuQ

Level 9 Power Plant - Forkheads - Break them (by Klacid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUjXRcH1xk

None of this music is under copyright.


I went overboard in the modelling process. now for textures!

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
and textures and modelling is done.

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now to see about this rig. even if I can;t rig it or some dumb shit, I can always just upload this model rigged for blender to the forums here and people can use it for FH stuffs.

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
ran into a problem. in order to get the information necessary for the rig I need the FBX file they had hosted here

http://destructivecreations.pl/upload/s ... torial.fbx

but it's 404.

I told them about this. we shall see what happens.

they gave me the model. next is openning it in new blender, that means installing new blender. will do that monday.

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
joshex wrote:
ran into a problem. in order to get the information necessary for the rig I need the FBX file they had hosted here

http://destructivecreations.pl/upload/s ... torial.fbx

but it's 404.

I told them about this. we shall see what happens.

they gave me the model. next is openning it in new blender, that means installing new blender. will do that monday.


Good stuff man! I've done all the sounds needed for albert in the game. Just got to normalise all the sounds so they're louder and give them all the right names then I'll post a zip of them all. :)


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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
one more hurdle. blender 2.5+ wont run after installation crashes with a runtime error saying it didn't understand the syntax of my python install. I am not updating my python because then old blender can't do scripting = no game dev.

I have asked on the blender artists forums, and we'll see what kinda advice they give. if push comes to shove I could try installing both variations of python.. I really don't want to do that though, I think blender 249 gets confused or one python overwrites the other.. I forget what the problem is. well thats a problem for tomorrow.

Edit:

Success, I imported the rig in blender 2.91 and exported to .bvh then imported the bvh to blender 2.49b now I have the armature in blender. this may take several goes. once it's weight painted I might need to do some rotating to get it all right.

Update:

eyes and eyebrows rigged according to their rig. did not rig eyelids, might not do so might just rig them to the head. he'll be a creepy unblinking character. PERFECT? also I'll be rigging his lips to the lip bones. but keep in mind he has no inner mouth, so it's the same mateerial as his body = Solid blackhole.

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Post Re: Hatred Mod - Anyone know unreal engine 4?
joshex wrote:
one more hurdle. blender 2.5+ wont run after installation crashes with a runtime error saying it didn't understand the syntax of my python install. I am not updating my python because then old blender can't do scripting = no game dev.

I have asked on the blender artists forums, and we'll see what kinda advice they give. if push comes to shove I could try installing both variations of python.. I really don't want to do that though, I think blender 249 gets confused or one python overwrites the other.. I forget what the problem is. well thats a problem for tomorrow.

Edit:

Success, I imported the rig in blender 2.91 and exported to .bvh then imported the bvh to blender 2.49b now I have the armature in blender. this may take several goes. once it's weight painted I might need to do some rotating to get it all right.

Update:

eyes and eyebrows rigged according to their rig. did not rig eyelids, might not do so might just rig them to the head. he'll be a creepy unblinking character. PERFECT? also I'll be rigging his lips to the lip bones. but keep in mind he has no inner mouth, so it's the same mateerial as his body = Solid blackhole.


Albert will be perfect unblinking than blinking yep sounds all awesome! Still working on the sounds for it!


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